Mercredi 27 février 2008 à 18:41



Lire un texte philosophique, c'est s'offrir l'occasion de penser avec un auteur. C'est se hisser jusqu'à lui pour tenter de découvrir en sa compagnie quelque chose de ce qu'il cherchait lui-même. Donc pas question de douter de soi, de se déclarer incompétent, si l'on tient à la réussite de l'expérience. Inutile d'attendre qu'un filet de vérité se déverse au creux de notre crâne vide, cela n'arrive jamais.
Lire, c'est penser avec un auteur, comme avec un guide on marche.
Le guide montre la voie, aménage les passages difficiles, mais la course est impossible si, moi, je ne marche pas du même pas que lui, et sur mes propres jambes. Plus encore, le guide n'est là que parce que je le veux, pour parvenir, avec son aide, à la destination que je me suis choisie.

Voilà, c'est dit.
Malheureusement, les professeurs omettent souvent de le rappeler à leurs élèves, qu'ils laissent interdits, l'œil collé à la page imprimée, écrasés par l'autorité d'un illustre barbu, ne sachant ni ce qu'ils se veulent ni même pourquoi ils sont là. 
La philosophie n'est accessible qu'à ceux qui revendiquent le droit de comprendre, à ceux qui ont le culot de tutoyer le maître, de lui signifier leurs désirs et de réclamer des explications si la direction qu'il montre n'est pas celle qu'ils veulent suivre.
La page imprimée n'est qu'un point d'appui pour sauter au cœur de la pensée vivante.
Ne dites jamais : « Platon a écrit que… » , mais déclarez d'une voix ferme  : « En lisant Platon, voici la pensée qui m'est venue. » Quelle qu'elle soit, cette pensée sera bien fille du vieux Platon, et ne vous faites pas trop de souci : les enfants ne ressemblent pas toujours à leurs pères !



Par maud96 le Mercredi 27 février 2008 à 23:01
Je préfère "penser avec un auteur" que "se hisser jusqu'à lui".. Les "sommets" ou "sommités", je crains pour le mental comme pour le coeur.
Puisque tu parles des philosophes, il me semble que les plus récents ont compris qu'une exigence nouvelle s'impose à eux, avec la diffusion du "papier bon marché " (un livre autrefois était rare et cher, et "écrémait" ses lecteurs par là-même) : c'est la nécessité de se rendre plus compréhensibles, plus pédagogiques... Trop de philosophes ont dégoûté de la philosophie par l'abstraction "pompeuse" et pas toujours nécessaire de leurs écrits. Je cherche une philosophie des petits vallons et des crêtes douces : Socrate et ses disciples marchaient pieds nus sur l'Agora, plate : c'est au pied de l'Olympe, dans la plaine que fut fondée la philosophie...
Et c'est pour çà qu'on apprécie "ta" philosophie... simple et claire à la lecture...
Par pand0ra le Mercredi 27 février 2008 à 23:21
C'est pas mal parce que ça montre d'autant plus que l'on s'est approprié du texte ! Tiens je prends notes de ce tuyau (ils nous disent de mettre "il a dit que" mais ce que tu mets là fait tout l'intérêt de la copie !)
Par a.fleur.de.curiosite le Jeudi 28 février 2008 à 7:34
Quand je l'ai lu au début, j'étais toute pleine de pensées informulables. Je me disais, pour faire un clin d'oeil à ta conclusion: "En lisant Que-vent-emporte, voici la pensée qui m'est venue: alors tout est une question de culot ?" (C'est fou ce qu'on sélectionne hein. Y'a des mots comme ça qui font tilt.)

Et puis dans la nuit, il s'est passé quelque chose, et après coup je me suis dit que c'était injuste. On croit que la connaissance est à portée de pages, et c'est peut-être le cas, mais les mots savent-ils ? On s'arme de bouquins, de théories, de références, de jolies phrases, de concepts reconnus, d'arguments d'autorité. Mais quoi qu'il arrive, on se retrouve toujours aussi démuni quand on est face à l'humain en souffrance. Toujours. Si tant est qu'on laisse un peu de soi être atteint. Si l'on ne l'est pas, n'a-t-on pas perdu un peu de soi à ne présenter qu'une carapace de mots, creuse ?
Et là, j'ai eu la sensation que tout ça n'était qu'une vaste supercherie. De la poudre aux yeux sous forme de jolis mots. Des métaphores de la vie, de l'humain, des images, rien que des images! Je suis surtout en colère contre moi-même de ne pouvoir me dire que j'ai fait le bon choix.
Et dans quelques heures, je me replongerai comme si de rien n'était dans ces mêmes livres de ces mêmes auteurs qui m'ont paru si vains cette nuit. Je ferai comme si, comme si j'y croyais encore un peu, et ça reviendra. Je me passionnerai.

"Inutile d'attendre qu'un filet de vérité se déverse au creux de notre crâne vide, cela n'arrive jamais. "
Voilà.

Et sinon, je suis désolée de ce commentaire.
PS: je me cramponne.
Par monochrome.dream le Jeudi 28 février 2008 à 8:05
J'ai aussi cette impression parfois, comme M. juste au dessus. Je me dis qu'un texte n'est qu'un alignement de mots morts et inutiles. Et tu as raison, c'est le lecteur qui fait autorité, pas Platon, pas le gus mort !
Mais le livre sert : son silence sert, et avec ça ses creux, les interrogations qu'il pose. Le livre, pour dévoiler sa richesse, demande parfois un temps incroyable, une attention soutenue, une réflexion presque douloureuse. Et surtout, le livre, c'est la distance. On est loin du bruit médiatique et abrutissant ! On prend le temps, moi j'adore ça. Je lis un chapitre, et ça dépend du livre, mais en général je pose dix fois le bouquin pour noter des idées. Parfois aussi, je relis le même paragraphe plusieurs fois ; soit qu'il était beau, soit qu'il était enrichissant, soit qu'il était compliqué à mon sens.

Et puis c'est vrai qu'on lit beaucoup, mais c'est de ta faute, mdr ! Avoue que ça te convient, sinon tu m'aurais envoyé paître :)
Je vois Mr le Génie dans 1h30, il va nous parler de Sartre ; je suis en pyjama, j'ai mon but dans 26 minutes... tu comprendras donc que j'abrège.
T'embrasse. Bonne journée husserlienne !
Par suspendue le Jeudi 28 février 2008 à 9:05
Un livre de philosophie répond à des questions et en pose de nouvelles, mais pour pouvoir en poser de nouvelles il faut que le lecteur se gratte la tête avec lui, s'accroche au fil noir de ses pensées et y fasse continuer les siennes, pour approfondir encore plus la réflexion pour s'approprier cette réflexion.
Par Eros Thanatos le Jeudi 28 février 2008 à 10:57
Heureusement que ces textes philosophiques nous permettent de penser avec l'auteur... Cela nous prouve, peut-être, quelque part, que nous ne sommes pas prêts de tout gober, mais que nous sachons accepter les opinions des autres et nous remettre en question si cela est nécessaire...
Par monochrome.dream le Lundi 10 mai 2010 à 22:17
Je souris. Finalement, Compagnon a bien fait de me diriger vers tes pages.
Et je me dis qu'à l'époque où tu as écrit ce texte, j'avais mal intégré ce que précisément il dit. Je veux dire : oui j'admettais ce que tu as écrit, mais sitôt retournée à mon petit contexte, je l'oubliais en quelque sorte, ou bien n'osais pas l'appliquer.
C'est terrifiant, de se dire qu'on est quelqu'un d'autonome et que finalement, dans tout ça, nos pensées valent peut-être autant que celles des grands, même si elles sont souvent moins abouties (je me sens toujours simpliste et réductrice, et même schématique, quand j'essaie de penser de vraies choses qui me dépassent).
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